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To All Alt.Winsock Readers:

   Here is an idea for all you programmers out there.  Would it be possible
to write a program to send FAXes over Internet?  The imagined software
might have a client & server (daemon) parts.  It could be similar to a TALK or
Lineprinter client/server combo.  The server might be running full-time as
a listener for incoming FAXes.  A client component should be able to send
a FAX in one of the standard formats to the server IP address.  The server may
either alert the user or pop-up with a viewer when a new FAX is received.
Ideally if the client could operate as a printer driver (like the commercial
WinFAX), then any computer document could be sent as a FAX (at least
through Windows).  A dream feature might be the ability to even send "colour
FAXes" through one of the common graphic formats like GiF or JPEG (of
course the software would have to be able to autodetect the format).
Eventually it would also be nice if the client software could actually interface
with hand and desktop scanners.  And run under Winsocks 1.1 of course.

     I realize there are commercial services on Internet that will receive a
document and FAX it out for you.  What I am thinking of will allow direct
FAXing to anyone on Internet (FAXing to the "Internet-deprived" is another
matter).  Lets cut out the middle-man (phone companies etc).  I would expect
there would be a very good market for any TCP/IP FAX software priced in the
"share-ware" range.  I would like to do it myself but I am not a programmer.

     Just an idea for anyone looking to take on a new project.  Remember me if
you need beta-testers.  Cheers from Canada!

Richard MacLennan
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On 14 Feb 1994 22:42:04 GMT,
Tex  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm looking for a good telnet package for the winsock.
>Presently using the NCSA version, works ok, but would like more options
>like key defines and terminal emulations

Me too!  If anyone is emailing answers to tex, please email me as well.
Thanks in advance.

                                   -Matt
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Subject: Re: Buggin' Out!

On Mon, 14 Feb 1994 20:20:33 EST,
Gregg Gonsalves  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I've got my SLIP connection up and running using Trumpet Winsock's TCPman and
>various client software (Eudora, Cello, Mosaic, HGopher, EINet
>WinWAIS,Winarch, WSPing, etc.), but I keep getting general protection faults
>and EMM386 errors almost everytime I am using these programs and am forced to
>reboot.  Is it me or is all this software incredibly buggy?  Any suggestions
>on how to make things run more smoothly?

I had many of these same problems and found a solution that has made my
system stable enough to be usable.  The solution was simple: I went out of
my way to find the latest version of all the programs.  In general,
oh anyone else out there looking for solutions to bugs and problems, get
the latest version first.  Often that means downloading the program from
several sites and then keeping the most recent.  99% of the time that is
also the least buggy version.

                                   -Matt
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Subject: Re: Can I install Winsock?

In article <2k94jc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Unix Guru) writes:

>  I have a standard school internet account, and would like to use
>the Windows interface to get more out of the net.  Yet, I do not have
>a slip or ppp account.  Can I still use WinSock?  How?  I do not have
>root access and I don't believe they are offering slip accounts to
>students.  I have also used pcucp which is somewhat adequate, as it
>gives me multiple windows, but it scrolls horribly (the whole screen
>flickers) and I would just assume use another term program.

>  Mac users have a program called Eudora which greatly improves the
>mail interface.  To my knowledge, they do not require a slip account.
>Is there anything I can use to do the same?

The Mac Eudora takes advantage of Mac-specific features to provide
a dialup-interactive mode of connecting if you don't have a SLIP connection.
The PC/Windows version doesn't have those features available, and so
requires TCP/IP.

NUPop in its latest release has a number of net-access features in it,
everything from telnet to gopher to news to, of course, the mail interface
it started with.  It's a DOS program that'll run under Windows as well,
and it has both TCP/IP (built-in stack) and dialup-interactive connections
available.  Not all of the features will work well, reliably, or at all
over a plain old serial dialup-interactive line, but some will.  If
SLIP access isn't in the cards for you, it's worth a look.  Lurk at
info.nupop, or take a look on ftp.acns.nwu.edu for the latest kit.

+ Michael


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Subject: Re: Dynamic IP allocation from SLIP server

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Prentice) writes:

>In article <2k3ah6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl-Heinz Weiss) writes:
>>try the 'address' -statment in login.cmd. (see the winsock.doc)

>>l8er,
>>      Karl

>Works for some and not for all.  I'm still trying to get Trumpet-Winsock to
>deal with IP allocation from my terminal server.  I dial into a 16-line switch
>and I can access SLIP directly it without needing to log in and do a
>userid/password thing.  Its a DEC box, and I don't remember what its exact
>model number is.

>Anyways, from the server's prompt I can do 'show port slip' and parse it with
>'address' in a script, but invariably it will munge the first octet of the
>address.  It is *supposed* to be 137.229.x.x but I have never once seen 137.x
>come through.  It manages to get the last three octets just fine.  TCP/IP
>gurus will recognise that this is a class-B address and that Winsock may be
>using an incorrect netmask (class-B netmask is 255.255.0.0), but winsock gurus
>will recognise that Trumpet Winsock ignores the netmask parameter in SLIp mode.

What's important in making "address" work right is ensuring that the
"input" statement that comes before it describes the text that comes
immediately before the start of the IP address; only spaces are ignored.
If you haven't already, check your script against a trace of the output
from "show port slip" and see if you've got it right.

+ Michael

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Subject: Re: Can I install Winsock?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael J. Tardiff) writes:

>In article <2k94jc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (
Unix>Guru) writes:

>>  Mac users have a program called Eudora which greatly improves the
>>mail interface.  To my knowledge, they do not require a slip account.
>>Is there anything I can use to do the same?

>The Mac Eudora takes advantage of Mac-specific features to provide
>a dialup-interactive mode of connecting if you don't have a SLIP connection.
>The PC/Windows version doesn't have those features available, and so
>requires TCP/IP.

This is no longer true.  Eudora 2.0.1 has been released and includes
direct serial port support -- i.e a serial POP3 connection akin to
Mac Eudora.  Works very well too!!

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Subject: Re: Dynamic IP allocation from SLIP server

On Wed, 16 Feb 1994 20:57:03 GMT,
Daniel Shap  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>A friend of mine wanted to try out winsock, so he went down to the computing
>dept. to get a SLIP number. Problem is, the dept. no longer gives out actual
>IP addresses. Instead, you log on to the SLIP server and type your name and
>password. After that, the server hands you a temp. IP number from a pool of
>such numbers, sort of like rarp.
>
>He can't use winsock because it wants to know his IP in advance. Does anyone
>have any suggestions as to how he can get around this problem?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Daniel

Recent versions of Trumpet Winsock enable you to configure the ip address
from within a login script after dialing up, like you suggested your friend
wants to do. Try getting the most recent version, and then take a glimpse
at the sample login script file that comes with it.  It will show you how
to do it.

                                   -Matt
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Subject: Re: WinARCHIE alternative search site ?

On Tue, 15 Feb 1994 22:12:04 +0000,
David Woakes  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>In article <2jr34q$[e-mail]>
>           [e-mail] "A. Ross Keele" writes:
>
>>I know someone posted this not to long ago, but I lost my configuration. What
>>is the command line switch to change the default ARCHIE search location in
>>the Trumpet WinSock ARCHIE app ? Thanks.
>>
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>The official line is use "-archie=archie.xx.xx.xx" as suits you.
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Where can I find this program?  I've been looking for a good Wisock archie
program.  Thanks in advance.

                                   -Matt
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ashok Aiyar) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Ashok Aiyar)
>Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 01:16:19 GMT

>In article <2k90jk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:

>>Right now there is, IMHO, NO stable Shareware/Freeware Windows selection
>>available with internal communications and dial scripting capability.

>>And, until there is something I can test and prove out to be stable, I will
>>continue to make this known.

>That statement is fine as long as you qualify it to state that the
>Trumpet Winsock is unstable on your test system.  I haven't had the
>same experience on a number of different systems, but in the event
>that you would like to code something better, I offer myself as a
>beta-tester.

I've had the experience of having everything stop for periods of from seconds
to 10s of seconds while using Trumpet Winsock, but I thought that was caused
by the SLIP server.

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In article <2kbbq8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Robert Downs) writes:
>  I also have similar problems with Alun Jones' wftpd.  I am wondering if
there>  is a timing problem with the use of the 3com 3c509 card - I hear it is
>  strict on interrupt timing due to a small buffer.  Wftpd will lock the
>  system after a transfer and GPF (in itself) on an "ls" sometimes.

I've been having the same problems.  I'm using FTP's PC/TCP version 2.2.  I
even wrote to Alun, but he couldn't help me.  I tried using a 3com 3c507 and
3c509 (2 different machines, similar software configuration) without success.
If someone has a good suggestion, I'd love to hear it!

>David

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